Hagrid and Snape: Was Snape, Apologies, and Redemption/Yo-Yo, Thimble, Mout

[Hagrid]

No: HPFGUIDX 152810

"sistermagpie" <belviso...> wrote: Snip)
>
> 
> > Alla:
> > 
> > I am really not 
> > disputing that Hagrid had many problems as a teacher, ... IMO he 
tries 
> > his best to make the class interesting by bringing more advanced 
> > creatures, ... I also think that he gave 
> > the warnings loud an clear, IMO of course.
> > 
> > In any event, I agree that Hagrid cannot keep class in control 
> > ... ( Luna saying that 
> > Hagrid is a joke, etc) after incident on the first lesson and 
IMO 
> > incredibly traumatic year for Hagrid. I would say that what 
Draco 
> > did could undermine Hagrid ...
> > 
> > Oh, and let's not forget that in his youth Hagrid was already 
> framed 
> > by dear Tommie and he was completely innocent then, just as he 
and 
> > Buckbeack IMO were now. I would say that it would increase the 
> > trauma, which Draco IMO inflicted upon Hagrid by framing him and 
> > Buckbeak.
> >
> 
> Magpie: (snip)
> Now, to get back to Hagrid, ...  Hagrid, imo, teaches ...kind of 
personal 
> lesson--and he teaches it inside class as well as outside, and he 
> began teaching it before he ever became a teacher.  ...  
> 
> Hagrid on one hand has a lot of good qualities. He's also got a 
sort 
> of amazing ability to tame wild animals etc.  DD says he'd trust 
> Hagrid with his life ...  However, Hagrid is also a comic 
character 
> because in some ways he's like a big kid.  ...Part of knowing 
> him, as an adult, is making allowances for this, which is 
> why Hagrid is often treated as if he's younger than characters 
> younger than he is. Charlie Weasley sternly tells Hagrid he's got 
> the dragon eggs counted, for instance, years after Hagrid already 
> got into trouble with a dragon.  Harry himself has also accepted 
> this aspect of Hagrid. All the Trio know that Hagrid has certain 
> limitations they have to work around or defend or put up with.  
> 
> As a teacher what this translates to is that in his class the kids 
> learn to look out for themselves--...  When he asks about the 
> safety of the Thestrals, Hagrid is not at all reassuring.  
> 
> When Hagrid teaches he's the same guy he is when he's not 
teaching, 
> and the kids all get that and react accordingly.  Harry himself 
> loves Hagrid and respects things about him, but he still knows he 
> sometimes has to deal with him as a child.  Hagrid hasn't changed 
> one way or the other since he started teaching and I really don't 
> think he will, because changing Hagrid in this way would be 
changing 
> the essence of Hagrid.  But he fits right into the teaching staff 
of 
> Hogwarts.  

~now aussie/norbertsmummy~

The MOM also respects Hagrid. When they wanted to send a squad of 
Aurors to guard Harry in Diagon Alley, they accepted DD's word that 
Hagrid would be enough.

I wonder strongly what makes Hagrid, not just nice, but impervious 
to spells and hexes. It is not just the supposed Giant's blood as 
Hermione says. The Giants in France were intimidated by wand 
weilding wizards.(OOP 20)

Delores Umbridge and a small group of Aurors knocked out McGonagall 
but couldn't stop Hagrid. The escaping DE couldn't stop Hagrid, so 
turned their attacks to Hagrids hut with Fang still inside.

I think either DD gave Hagrid an extra type of protective barrier or 
his clothing has Graphorn hide in it (Fantastic Beasts) which 
repells spells.

Whatever makes Hagrid virtually bullet-proof, this also makes him 
think it is natural for others to be as safe as he around the 
Forbidden Forrest, etc.

His mode of trasport to get Harry from the Dursleys and disappear at 
Kings Cross station is a mystery to me. He said he Flew to that hut 
on the rock (Thestrall? Flying Carpet?) or what do you think?

~aussie / Norbertsmummy~