Draco and Dumbledore WAS: Re: Dumbledore Does Lie - Sort Of

a_svirn a_svirn at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 17 21:23:04 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 159864


> Alla earlier:
> > > > 
> > > > Actually, I would like **one** example in canon that shows 
that 
> > > > Dumbledore has a history of knowing what is best? <snip>

> Carol:
<snip>
> Also, Dumbledore saved Harry from several AKs and drove Voldemort 
away
> from the MoM. Harry's love saved him from possession, but 
Dumbledore
> saved him from death. 
> 
> But if those examples won't work for you, how about this one?
> Dumbledore provided the means by which Harry saved himself and 
Ginny
> from Diary!Tom and the Basilisk--Fawkes and the Sword of 
Gryffindor in
> the Sorting Hat. All that was required was to be in need and loyal 
to
> Dumbledore, the enemy of Voldemort.
> 
> Granted, DD didn't find the CoS and destroy the Basilisk himself, 
but
> only a Parseltongue could do that. He had to leave the school, but 
he
> didn't leave it (or Harry) unprotected. He knew exactly how to get
> Harry to summon Fawkes, who had apparently been instructed to bring
> the Sorting Hat with the sword (which only a true Gryffindor could
> pull out) concealed inside it. Very Harrycentric protections, don't
> you think?

a_svirn:
But none of these examples qualifies as "knowing what the best is". 
It does show that Dumbledore *saved* Harry on a number of occasions, 
yet all those situations had little to nothing to do with 
his "knowing". The sequence of events that led to Harry's being 
saved in the Ministry battle was something Dumbledore had tried to 
avert of all costs and failed. He admitted as much, by the way. As 
for Basilisk-Fawkes situation I am not sure what do you mean by 
calling it "protection"? Suppose Harry had turned out to be less 
loyal? Or not so quick-thinking? If he had failed that test he would 
have ended up dead. (As well as Ginny, and who knows how many 
others). Not only the whole deal doesn't look like "protection", I'd 
say, it is somewhat dubious from the ethical point of view. If, that 
is, you are right in assuming that it was "Harrycentric". 






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