witches of the world (was: Lavender vs Hermione)

[amiabledorsai]

No: HPFGUIDX 160400

Magpie wrote:
> I doubt that if this was done to the Trio (even to find out what
> Harry knew about the CoS) it would be considered such a minor
> thing. I imagine Hermione herself would be *furious* if an enemy
> did this to them--as would anyone--and Hermione would probably 
> enact some sort of revenge along the lines of her revenge on Rita
> Skeeter or Marietta. Sure none of the Slytherins are physically hurt
> (and Hermione's being hurt is genuinely all from her own actions,
> part of the risk she agrees to with her own plan) and the biggest
> thing that happens to them is that the Malfoy's secret chamber
> becomes known to Harry and Ron (something that is certainly a
> big deal for him and would be a bigger deal to us if it were one of
> the Trio's secrets), but I don't see how this makes it such a great 
> thing to justify this kind of thing so much there's nothing
> questionable about it. As I said, I get what Hermione's intentions
> were. There's more to right and wrong than just identifying the
> reason the person in question had for doing something. There's a
> reason some things need to apply to everyone, not just the good
> guys. Only being able to see things from the pov of what 
> Hermione wants or what the good side needs in the short term isn't,
> imo, a workable ethical system.

Magpie wrote some more:
> Personally, I think it's very possible the quill isn't known by many
> people during the year. Harry knows what the marks on Lee
> Jordan's hands are and feels solidarity with him. But actually, I
> don't think that necessarily informs Marietta's actions one way or
> the other. Students are probably capable of rationalizing a lot of 
> punishment that are over the line if they want.

Amiable Dorsai:
So, let me see if I understand:  Hermione was wrong, wrong, wrong to
do what she did to try to find and stop the person who was attempting
to murder (as in kill) *people like her*, but Marietta's betrayal of
20-odd students--including her best friend—to a torturer is really no
big deal?

Amiable "but puzzled" Dorsai