witches of the world (was: Lavender vs Hermione)
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 27 00:27:25 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 160425
> > Magpie:
> > But...isn't that what you're saying, that it was a fine thing?
You
> > seemed to be disagreeing she'd even done the things I'd said
she'd
> > done.
>
> Tesha:
> She read a book that was in the "Banned Area" She took some
material
> from a teacher's private stock. She made and made available a
spiked
> treat. She used her skills and knowlege to help her friend find out
> some information that might have helped save others. There was no
> violence, there was no physical harm (except to herself) - and she
is
> just a child - I think that's pretty remarkable.
>
>
> I fail to see how you come to these conclusion... unless you simply
> despise her???
Alla:
You know, you had me in your camp, still do for the most part ....
up till "unless you simply despise her" part of your argument.
Yes, while I can understand how some actions of Hermione could be
criticised ( still would disagree, but at least understand),
criticising operation polyjuice is well.... impossible to understand
for me.
I think it is a classical example of breaking the rules for the good
purpose. I think the goal of catching the bastard who hates
Muggleborns and could be Slytherin heir fully justifies knocking his
two lackeys unconscious for an hour, especially when indeed IMO no
physical harm was done here AND Hermione IMO was indeed the one who
suffered the most after that operations.
After Draco's little talk, I think they had perfect reasons to think
of him as guilty party.
So, yeah, if I **may** think that after jinxing Marietta Hermione's
conscience should bother her very slightly ( NOT for coming up with
the idea of punishing the traitor in the first place mind you), but
for not removing the jinx after such long time, although I love
Amiable Dorsai idea that Marietta violated magical contract and
Hermione may not have been able to do so anyways.
Searching for Slytherin heir, though I think was very well done, and
Hermione can sleep well after that.
It is still interesting though that JKR does punish her even then,
hehe.
Anyways, "unless you simply despise her" reminds me of the arguments
I get sometimes when I criticise Snape. It goes like that, I bring
some canon action of Snape that I consider despicable ( and there
are plenty of those, hehe), the response I get sometimes - "Oh, you
just do not like Snape"
That implies to me that my argument based on canon example somehow
gets discounted because I do not like Snape ( HAHA - as if I am
trying to keep that fact a secret - Die Snape, die now :))
Magpie brought specific canon based action of Hermione that she
dislikes,and while I personally as I said above cannot grasp how
this action can be disliked, I find the response "you despise her"
not to be very relevant. Sorry!
JMO,
Alla
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