What Did Dumbledore Know and When Did He Know It
va32h
va32h at comcast.net
Sat Aug 4 01:17:25 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 174440
You know I've been thinking - I'm not sure I believe that Dumbledore
*was* raising Harry to die....Looking at the timeline of DD's horcrux
knowledge, it's not really clear when DD realized that Harry was a
horcrux himself.
1981: Voldemort tries to kill Harry, fails, and is blasted into
nothingness. Dumbledore decides that Harry should be raised away from
the wizarding world and suspects that Voldemort will find a way to
come back. Dumbledore seems to understand how Harry was protected,
and how DD can keep protecting him (the charm on 4 Privet Drive), and
expresses fear that Harry will one day be endangered by Voldemort
again.
Skip ahead 11 years, and here's Harry at school - as Dumbledore says
himself, an engaging child. And the whole thing with Quirrell
happens, and Dumbledore gets confirmation that Voldemort is indeed
still out there. But he still isn't sure why, or what will come of
it.
It isn't until CoS that Dumbledore has proof that Voldemort has
created a horcrux - the diary. And since the diary was meant to be
used, DD senses that it's probably not the only one. It would also be
in this book that Dumbledore might start to suspect that there is a
bit of LV in Harry (from the parseltongue, and from the sorting hat).
But even if there is a bit of Voldemort in Harry, it's sort of a non-
issue -- because Voldemort is still just floating around in Albania
or wherever. Dumbledore may have brooded on the future ramifications
of Harry carrying about a bit of Voldemort's soul, may have even
speculated that eventually Harry would have to die to truly get rid
of Voldemort, but at this point in the story - Voldemort has no body,
nor any prospects of getting one. I mean - if Voldemort doesn't get
his body back ever, Harry can just live a normal life and die at the
age of 150 and the soul bit dies with him.
The issue of Harry being a Horcrux only becomes pertinent when
Voldemort gets his body back, two years later. And since the same
ceremony that gives Voldemort back his body also gives Harry the
means to come back from death - the problem of Harry having to
sacrifice himself is already solved.
Rather than Dumbledore raising Harry as a pig for slaughter - I would
say there's about a 40 minute period where Dumbledore fears that
Harry will have to die - permanently - to get rid of Voldemort
permanently. And that's the time period between Harry saying "he's
back" and Harry getting to the part of the story where Wormtail cuts
open his arm.
Dumbledore really doesn't know everything from the beginning. We are
used to believing that (and certainly Dead!Dumbledore in King's Cross
appears to know a lot of stuff that he shouldn't have any reason to
know - but I think there's plenty of evidence that there are many
things Dumbledore doesn't know. He didn't know that three
unregistered Animagi were tromping around his school for years. He
didn't know how to use the Resurrection Stone properly. He didn't
know what the Room of Requirement really was (he encountered it once,
full of chamber pots). He didn't know as much as he thought he knew
about Draco's plan in HBP. He didn't know Moody wasn't Moody!
He was apparently wrong about when and with whose deaths Voldemort
created the horcruxes too - if JKR's web chat answers are accepted as
canon.
So - was I stupid for initially agreeing with Snape about the pig for
slaughter comment, and everyone else already caught on to this or am
I just a rampant Dumbledore apologist or what? I'm not sure.
va32h
More information about the HPforGrownups
archive