MuggleNet - Godrics Hollow Theory. General vs Specific
esmith222002
c.john at imperial.ac.uk
Mon Jan 8 12:05:10 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 163581
A little bit of canon -
"An immensely complex spell involving the magical concealment of a
secret inside a single, living soul. The information is hidden inside
the chosen person, or Secret-Keeper, and is henceforth impossible to
find -- unless, of course, the Secret-Keeper chooses to divulge it"
(PA10).
"As long as the Secret-Keeper refused to speak, You-Know-Who could
search the village where Lily and James were staying for years and
never find them, not even if he had his nose pressed against their
sitting room window!" (PA10)
"When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them, or to put it
another way, the status of their secret will remain as it was at the
moment of their death. Everybody in whom they confided will continue
to know the hidden information, but nobody else...
And a couple of quotes from JKR -
"In other words, a secret (e.g., the location of a family in hiding,
like the Potters) is enchanted so that it is protected by a single
Keeper (in our example, Peter Pettigrew, a.k.a. Wormtail).
Thenceforth nobody else - not even the subjects of the secret
themselves - can divulge the secret. Even if one of the Potters had
been captured, force-fed Veritaserum or placed under the Imperius
Curse, they would not have been able to give away the whereabouts of
the other two. The only people who ever knew their precise location
were those whom Wormtail had told directly, but none of them would
have been able to pass on the information (JKR)."
MA: Was there anyone else present in Godric's Hollow the night
Harry's parents were killed?
JKR: No comment.
Brothergib;
The first piece tends to suggest that the Secret Keeper can divulge
the location to anyone and the secret will remain intact. I'm not
sure it is a loyalty issue, but as it says it is a complex spell, I
suppose it can't be discounted.
The first quote proves that only the secret keeper can divulge the
info i.e. DD could not tell anyone (even via a scrap of paper) unless
PP had given him permission to do so.
What has always confused me is how anyone could find Harry! PP was
still alive and therefore the Charm was still in place. Therefore
noone would be able to find Harry in the rubble.
My theory -
SS was with LV on that night, although he was not privvy to the
secret (since LV could not tell him). SS was aware that something
catastrophic has happened (after all the house is destroyed), and may
even have found LV in the rubble - he wouldn't be able to find the
Potters however. SS contacts DD. DD knows the Potters are there, but
probably wasn't directly told by PP. Perhaps the missing 24h involved
DD attempting to break through the Charm in an attempt to locate
Harry/Lily/James.
Brothergib
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