Possession Theory/Ethics/R/H Kids/Snape/Four Elements/TLWH/Faith Predicti

[Neri]

No: HPFGUIDX 171485


> Neri wrote in 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/171446>:
> 
> << Faith's Predictions for "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" 
> (snip) 5. [Snape]'s not Voldemort's man either. >>
>

> Catlady wrote: 
> Faith is defined as believing whatever the surface of the narrative 
> says. When there's a plot twist or revelation, she believes the new 
> thing. So in PS/SS, Faith believed that Snape was trying to steal 
> the Stone until Harry went through the door and found Quirrell. And 
> in GoF, she believed Snape had not been a Death Eater from the time 
> that Sirius said Dumbledore wouldn't have hired him if he were an 
> ex-DE until the Pensieve trial scene.
> 

Neri:
Yes, this is generally true. Faith is no good (and has never claimed
to be) at predicting plot twists or shattering new revelations. What
is surprising is that *despite* this, Faith's prediction record is the
best in the Bay. Or at least, it is surprising to those readers who
fail to realize that, even with JKR, twists and revelations must be
the *exception* rather than the rule.  


> Catlady:
> Under this definition, Faith would have read the Spinner's End chapter
> and believed what Snape told the sisters -- that he was loyal to Lord
> Voldemort. And that belief would have been strengthened by Snape
> killing Dumbledore.

Neri:
Not exactly. Faith isn't quite as superficial as you present her, and
she isn't Naive or Gullible (she's only their first cousin <g>). She
indeed generally believes Snape's words in Spinner's End, *except*
when they contradict other canon. For example, Dumbledore strongly
suggested that Snape was the one who told him about the danger to the
Potters, and it isn't likely that Voldemort knew about or authorized
this. So Faith concludes that Snape isn't loyal to Voldemort too, but
to his own personal objectives. This is a possibility that is
suggested by a lot of other canon as well, and therefore sits well
with Faith.

  
> Neri :
> << 30. The green potion from the cave didn't have any additional 
> effects beside those stated by Dumbledore: weakening the drinker and 
> trying to prevent him from taking the Horcrux by any way possible. >>

> Catlady:
> So what was that bad dream he was re-living?
>

Neri:
Where's the canon that he was re-living anything? A bad dream can be 
all hallucination, can't it. I don't know any canon that anything
Dumbledore was talking about during his potion experience had actually
happened before, and Dumbledore's canon explanation of the potion's
effect is perfectly adequate. In fact it is considerably more adequate
than the OotP explanation of the bubblegum wrappers, and yet before
HBP Faith had no trouble predicting that all the grand bubblegum
wrappers theories are headed straight for the bottom of the Bay.


Neri