New poll for HPforGrownups TBAY: Dumbledore is Ever So Evil!

[colwilrin]

No: HPFGUIDX 171942

> lizzyben:
<really big snip>
 So yeah, however 
> noble DD's ultimate goal might be, he is surely Ever So Evil from 
> Harry's point of view. And mine, too. 
> 
> 
> lizzyben
>

Colwilrin:

I agree, but also disagree with your theory.  I think that there is 
little that has happened in the past 6 books that was beyond DD's 
manipulation.  IMO he is MM!DD (Master Manipulator DD).  However, I 
don't see this as evil.  He has an agenda, for the greater good.  
Though his actions may have caused pain to some, his underlying 
intent is for the good of all.  There is no element of "evil" to his 
personality.  If it does turn out that he is "evil" I will literally 
fall of the couch!  He reminds me more of what Spock from Star Trek 
says- the good of the many outweigh the good of the one.  He is very 
logical and calculating...I find it very hard to believe that all of 
Harry's adventures could have occurred without his knowledge and 
allowance.

For example, I do believe that DD orchestrated the entire PS/SS 
challenge to get to the mirror/stone with full intent to test Harry 
and his abilities.  It is just too convenient that he is "away" from 
Hogwarts every time Harry is on the verge of acting and his presence 
would stop Harry.  In thoughts of absurd wondering, I have even 
wondered if DD hadn't arranged every challenge Harry has gone through 
during all 6 books as an intricate training program.  However, I 
think that is going a little to far...but not much!

DD has surrounded Harry with the appropriate teachers, role models 
and friends to foster his development and give him clues and unique 
skills.  I think little was left to chance.  I don't think he went as 
far as to assign R and Her to him as friends...but I also don't think 
that it is meer coincidence that Harry ended up exposed to them early 
on.

If he is not that manipulative...I will tip my hat to JKR for making 
a dottering, imperfect old wizard appear so much greater than he was.