my DH reactions minus Snape

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 172526


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "prep0strus" <prep0strus at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "M.Clifford" <Aisbelmon@> wrote:
> > It seems to me that the second time, in the Great Hall, then, Harry
> > was the undisputed Master of Death. That was the moment when he took
> > possession of the last Hallow and mastered it in his magical control,
> > the only thing he hadn't done yet, and so in that moment, he could not
> > die. Voldemort's immortality was gone as of Nagini's death so he could
> > die, and via the shared blood it is possible he could have taken Harry
> > with him, it was at that moment, I believe, that Harry had achieved
> > the legendary immortality bestowed by the Hallows and thus couldn't
> die. 
> > 
> 
> This is really interesting.  But it also assumes that possession
> doesn't require being in the presence or physical control of a Hallow.
>  That being the case... wouldn't Harry still be the master of all
> three objects for as long as no one finds the stone in the woods or
> bests harry in a duel?  Making him, in effect, immortal?
> 

Yes, I'm sure you're right. But for Harry to die a natural death in
the end all he would need to do is give up possession of the Cloak to
his son and he could. Provided the rest of his life is uneventful and
he remains master of the other objects, of course.  




> The besting in a duel, I'm sorry to say, still baffles me, though I've
> been following the threads for thoughts.  What truly transfers
> ownership of the elder wand, and why was Harry able to take mastery
> from Draco, but Voldy didn't get it from Harry when he blasted him?
>

This bit *is* confusing, I agree. All I can think of is that Voldemort
defeated himself with the elder wand when he blasted Harry, so he
didn't really win that battle at all, he lost decisively to Harry who
chose sacrifice to defeat LV, the wandlore itself must have been deep
enough to understand that.