How Stupid IS Hagrid (was: Prank, etc.)

[Mike]

No: HPFGUIDX 169874

> > Donna wrote:
> >
> > Hagrid knows more than we think he knows. He knows
> > about the horcruxes.  ... Hagrid's reply is "...  
> > DUNNO IF HE HAD ENOUGH HUMAN LEFT IN HIM TO DIE." ...
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> A good theory and one that is possible, but I think it
> is more likely that Hagrid is just commenting on 
> Voldemort's changed snake-like physical appearances.
> Voldemort no longer looks human, so it is reasonable
> for people to assume he has done something to reduce
> his humanity.

Mike:
Yeah, but when would Hagrid have had the chance to see Voldemort? 
Would the DEs, or anybody else be spreading the news about Voldy's 
appearance? I rather doubt that he would allow that to happen. News 
that the leader looks like a human snake would tend to detract from 
the appeal of becomming a DE for possible new recruits. 

So Hagrid's only other choice, imo, is Dumbledore. Which *could* also 
mean that Dumbledore told Hagrid *why* Voldy looks like he does. Not 
necessarily getting all involved, just telling Hagrid, "the guy has 
been experimenting with splitting apart his soul. He's already lost 
considerable chunks of it." Then leave Hagrid to his imagination.



> bboyminn:
> It is also possible that Hagrid was commenting on
> Voldemort general and excessive Evilness. The more
> evil and less compassionate you become the less 
> human you become.

Mike:
This is a good alternate read. But would that inspire the 
phrasing "HUMAN LEFT IN HIM"? I don't know, that seems to be a 
specific phraseology that was inspired by a specific knowledge. I 
think Donna is quite possibly correct in her interpretation.


> > Donna
> > Sounds like to me he knows about the horcruxes. That is why he 
> > was on Knockturn Alley in CoS. Word got out that one of the
> > horcruxes was surfacing and he was looking for it.
>
>
> Steve/bboyminn:
> Still, I'm not discounting your idea completely. This
> is certainly a reasonably suspicious statement from 
> Hagrid. 

Mike:
I like the idea that Hagrid knew or suspected the Horcruxes. Not sure 
about the rumor that one was surfacing in CoS. Lucius, who had the 
Horcrux and caused it to surface in CoS, didn't know it was a Horcrux 
if you believe Dumbledore. The cavalier way that Lucius treated one 
of "Lord Voldemort's old school things", tends to make me believe 
that that was how Lucius thought of the Diary. That makes a rumor 
hard to get started.

BTW, I still think that the Diary was a key part of Voldemort's plan 
to complete his quest for immortality. Somehow, that Diary Revenant 
was going to be his new, non-aging body.

Mike, who wonders what LV's plan B for immortality is ;-)