CHAPDISC: HBP30, The White Tomb

[a_svirn]

No: HPFGUIDX 165718

> > Alla:
> >
> > Hmmm, I would say that JKR certainly writes friendships much 
better
> > than she writes romance (see trio friendship as example and
> romances
> > in book 6 as examples as well, and I **do** love Harry/Ginny, but
> > was not happy as it was written).
> 
> a_svirn:
> Yes, but that's not the problem. Some authors don't do love stuff
> well. I am OK with that. Austen, for one, is notorious for 
dismissing
> all that love nonsense with something like:  "and he expressed
> himself on the occasion as sensibly and as warmly as a man violently
> in love can be supposed to do," and heading straight to the 
epilogue.
> What I find strange is the way Ginny is always excluded from Harry's
> immediate circle. He grew up with her as much as he grew up with Ron
> and Hermione; she has always stood by him; she is loyal to the right
> cause; she is one of the most prominent members of DA; she is
> certainly one his nearest and dearest, and yet she is always left 
out
> of everything that is really important. Why wasn't she told about 
the
> Prophesy? Why wasn't she told about horcruxes?
> 
> 
> Magpie:
> Doesn't that just indicate that she isn't one of his nearest and 
dearest? I 
> mean...she's not. She's never been at the level of Ron and 
Hermione. <snip>

a_svirn:
Well, she is not, and yet, she is. She's not like the twins who have 
the circle of their own, and very exclusive one at that. Since OOP 
Ginny is one of the closest persons to Harry. And in HBP he falls in 
love in her. Well. Why not make a Quartet out of the Trio? It is as 
though she is not good enough somehow...

> Magpie:
> I don't think it's odd that the Trio is still a Trio and doesn't 
become a 
> foursome. Perhaps in some part because Ginny hasn't really been 
created to 
> fulfill that kind of role. 

a_svirn:
Obviously, she wasn't. But it is not clear why. 

> Magpie:
It would be like suddenly having the Twins always 
> be part of the innermost inner circle with Harry instead of where 
they are, 
> people who are sometimes important but not in the Trio. Their 
dynamic would 
> totally go off-kilter with the constant addition of Ginny, as all 
groups do 
> when another person is added.

a_svirn:
As I said, Ginny is not like the twins. She does not have a circle of 
her own. Even her boyfriends were means to the end – to capture 
Harry's attention. She is always part of the group that is centered 
around Harry, but not quite close to the centre, as it were.