ChapDisc: HBP30, The White Tomb - What if...???

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 165913

---  "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> bboyminn:
> > Also, key to my theory, is that /missed/ spells 
> > frequently have substantial physical impact.
> 
> Carol:
> But Snape's spell, whatever it was, didn't "miss." It 
> hit DD squarely in the chest--
> 

bboyminn:

Ahhh... but in my theory, it did miss. An AK takes life, 
if there is no life to take, then that is the equivalent
of a /miss/.

Still, I'm well aware of the weaknesses in my theory.

> 
> bboyminn:
> It is possible that Snape used some alternate spell, 
> but why? ...
> 
> Carol:
> Right. Dumbledore is dead. That, unfortunately, is 
> indisputable. As far as an alternate spell disguised as
> an is concerned, its sole purpose would be to let 
> Dumbledore die from the poison (or the "unstoppered" 
> ring curse, according to some theories). That way Snape
> would not be guilty of murder, ...

bboyminn:

Just requesting a clarification on this point. Are
you saying that Snape cast /some/ curse against 
Dumbledore that threw an alive but fading Dumbledore 
off the tower, and we will assume gave him a soft 
landing, so that Dumbledore coud die quietly on his 
way down?

The key here being that Dumbledore die on the way down
of either natural or previous causes rather than died
by Snape's curse or the landing.

Just checking. 

If Snape is guilty of some form of murder, then it 
makes it extremely difficult for he and Harry to 
work together as I am convinced the must do before
the end of the book. So, if there is some way that
Snape could have only /appeared/ to murder Dumbledore,
and if somehow Lupin and Hermione can determine this
independantly, then perhaps Harry would be open to 
at least hearing Snape out.

My opinion is that Draco will come to the good side
through Snape. That is Harry's struggle will be between
himself and Snape. Draco's stuggle will also be between
himself and Snape. Once Snape and Harry resolve, that 
opens the door for Draco to come in. But both these 
strike me as huge problems to overcome. It's going to
be interesting.

What I love about the last book in a series is how it
all comes together. How strange characters lurking in
the shadows come forward and their true significants
becomes known. Nothing more rewarding than seeing all
the pieces fall into place. 

You have refined your claim to 'a normal AK to the 
extent that we are able to determine'. That seems
reasonable, as long as you are doing your best to 
include everything that might help us determine and
not just what serves you. 

Not making any accusations since we are all speculating,
the best we can do is consider everything, but focus on
what we think is significant. I'm just pointing out that
what most people consider /normal/ is wider than they
typically will admit. And this is not specifically 
directed at you, but directed at the overal discussion
of the subject of 'Normal AK' in general. Normal reaction
for any specific curse is actual very widely varied.

For what it's worth.

Steve/bboyminn