LV's bigger plan (was:Fawkes possible absence)

[Dana]

No: HPFGUIDX 166337

Bart:
> And what makes you think he didn't? In my recent re-reading of PS,
> it seems clear to me that DD wanted Quirell caught in the act,
> and wanted Harry to be the one to do it. The only flaw in DD's
> plans was allowing himself to be suckered away for a bit.
<snip>

Dana now:
No, it is not clear that DD wanted Harry to face LV and I personally
do not believe he actually wanted him to. I think it was meant to
understand that only Snape was on to Quirrell and because of it, he
made himself suspicious. I think it was also meant to read that DD
had no clue about it being Quirrell aiding LV, even if DD knew LV was
trying to get to the stone and was keeping himself alive with unicorn
blood.

Bart:
> It was explicitly stated that the Marauder's Map could detect
> people wearing invisibility cloaks.
<snip>

Dana now:
Harry was already out of sight in the passageway towards the
Shrieking Shack and not all of it can be seen on the map. The Shack
itself is also not on the map. Snape specifically mentioned he saw
Lupin running along the passageway and out of sight.

Bart
> What I can't figure out (having just finished re-reading PoA) is
> why Dumbledore didn't suspect that Black was hiding in the
> Shrieking Shack.
<snip>

Dana now:
Probably because he was not expecting Sirius to linger in one place.

There are many things one could question about the prank and the
probability of DD not knowing certain things. For me James
risking his own life to save Snape still holds some question marks
too, because if Lupin really posed a threat then what would have
stopped James from transforming into Prongs and hold him off? Oh well, better risk my life and potentially end up dead than to have Snape know I am an illegal animagus.

Another is of course where were the others? They are supposed to be
running with Lupin every month. Maybe we are just not supposed to ask
certain questions because they are not relevant to the plot. Or maybe
we will indeed understand how they fit after we have the last pieces
of information.

There is also the part in HBP where Harry is shocked a werewolf has
killed a little boy and he is told that werewolves indeed are able to
kill when they get carried away (implying they normally do not, so
not just because he can't imagine Lupin killing someone).  Lupin
himself also states that werewolves *sometimes* kill to eat. This in
relation to the prank makes no sense at all. Who would want to eat
Snape? ;)

On another list I saw someone make a great remark about a
question asked to JKR about why the twins never saw Pettigrew on the
map. (If you are the owner of these remarks then please forgive me
for not crediting you by name, can remember the remark so vividly but
can't remember where I've seen it)

It went something like this;

George: Look at the map Fred, There is a guy named Peter Pettigrew in
Ron's bed.
Fred: Never heard of a Peter Pettigrew, you?
George: No
Fred: Well never mind, let's go raid the kitchen.

Bart:
> Not that it's impossible, but it would violate one of the major
> standards of modern heroic Western literature: that the major
> advantage good has over evil is that good can understand evil, but
> evil can't understand good. JKR pretty explicitly makes this a
> theme of the book. The Riddle may think he has DD figured out, but
> I don't believe he does.
<snip>

Dana now:
LV is known to be able to play people to his own advantage and this
needs understanding people a great deal. Just because he could not
play DD doesn't mean he doesn't know certain weaknesses DD has when
it concerns one of his students.
DD avoids Harry, in OotP, partly because he doesn't want LV to know
Harry means more to him then just having a mere Headmaster vs. pupil
relationship.

LV's weaknesses are his fear of death and understanding the *power*
of love and how it can be used against him but he does know how to
manipulate people with love as a weapon against them. That is how he
got Harry to the DoM by making him think he was torturing Sirius.
Also, LV does know about good he just considers it a weakness because
it can be so easily used to manipulate those fools who love. He just
doesn't understand the power behind it.