Snape as Neville's teacher / JKR's sexy men roll call
montavilla47
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Thu May 10 21:31:19 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 168529
Dana:
In my opinion it is a presumption that Snape saves lives
because they are threatened by Voldemort because at this moment the
only reason for saving Harry's life and trying to safe James's life
that canon supports is that he owed James a debt. And it is
interesting that DD is not believed when he tells Harry this but that
he is believed when he states Snape can be trusted. So either DD is
right in both or both are equally questionable.
Montavilla47:
Dumbledore didn't say that Snape owed James a *life* debt. He says that
he *believes* that Snape hated James because James did the unforgiveable
thing of saving Snape's life and that he hoped that saving Harry's life might
even the score.
The way that Dumbledore states this puts it very much in Snape's mind and
might well be different than the "magic" that was invoked by Harry sparing
Pettigrew's life.
This is why many people discount the "life debt" notion and not the "trust"
notion. Not because one is convenient and one is not.
Dana:
His saving people rate is at this moment, equals to his own claimed
rate of killing people or being responsible for their deaths.
Montavilla47:
Let's see. He claimed to have aided in the deaths of two people:
Emmeline Vance and Sirius Black. He killed Dumbledore.
He aided in saving Harry's life in PS/SS. He aided in saving Harry,
Hermione, Ron, Luna, Ginny, and Neville's lives in OotP. In HBP,
he saved Dumbledore's life. He "prevented the spread" of Katie's curse,
which probably saved her life. His information helped Harry save
Ron's life. He saved Draco's life when Harry cut him up in the bathroom.
He may have saved Draco and Narcissa's life by completing Draco's
mission.
Kills: 1 + 1/2 + 1/2 = 2.
Saves: 1/2 + (1/2*6) + 1 + 1/4 + 1 = 5.75 (Not counting the possible
saves. If you add those in, you another 3: 8.75)
Dana
Interesting because Hermione perceived this too and was far more
effective in saving Harry then Snape was with his muttering counter-
curses. Snape like Hermione knows it takes eye contact so why not go
to Quirrell and smack him in the head?
Montavilla47:
The book is so clear about this. Quirrell is seated *behind* Snape. Snape
can't know who is jinxing that broom. There are several hundred people in
the stands and he can't know who the culprit is. Even Hermione, who looks
in the direction that Snape and Quirrell are, facing them, doesn't notice
that it's Quirrell and not Snape.
Snape has no time to look around that stadium. He *has* to keep his eyes
on the broom so that he can counterjinx it.
Montavilla47
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