The link and Voldemort's Legilimency (WAS Re: Snape as Neville's ...)

[Zara]

No: HPFGUIDX 168587

> Dana:
> The problem is that there is no canon proof that LV can actually 
> witness Harry's thoughts through the scar link only that he could 
> implant feelings and visions, Harry only feels LV inside him once 
> right after the attack on Arthur when Harry felt like wanting to 
kill 
> Dumbledore.

zgirnius:
As a purely technical point about the link and Voldemort's 
Legilimency, I disagree. I'd say several points of canon indicate 
Harry can see Voldemort's thoughts - he experiences the attack on 
Arthur Weasley as the snake, while Voldemort is possessing the snake, 
and also he sees the conversation between Voldemort and Rookwood. It 
seems to me that Voldemort, who is the acknowledged expert at 
Legilimency, should be able to manage as much.

Also, Dumbledore clearly fears this happening, and again, he is an 
expert on the subject. It is his explanation for why he avoided Harry 
all year, and why he would not so much as make eye contact with Harry 
during OotP. He explains that if Voldemort saw them having a close 
relationship, he would seek to exploit this. How else would Voldemort 
see the closeness of Harry and Dumbledore, if not through Harry's 
eyes? 

Finally, there is that one scene where when Harry and Dumbledore make 
eye contact, Harry is suddenly filled with hatred and wants to bite 
Dumbledore. That this happened precisely when the eye contact was 
made seems an enormous coincidence. I would think that instead 
Voldmemort was looking through Harry's eyes and the sight of 
Dumbledore brought on those feelings.

> Dana:
> He is using legilimency on Harry 
> and not the scar link. He also would know that DD is down stairs 
but 
> then why is he acting so surprised? 

zgirnius:
The scar link and Legilimency are not unrelated. As Snape explains, 
usually Legilimency requires that the subject be in the same room, 
and that the subject and the Legilimens make eye contact. The link 
makes it so that this is not necessary for Voldemort and Harry. The 
whole point of the Occlumency lessons is to prevent Voldemort from 
Legilimensing Harry (sending him visions) through the link. If it 
were not a form of Legilimency that Voldemort is using, then 
Occlumency would not be the thing Harry needs to learn to block it.

Dana:
> (pg 520 chapter: Seen and Unforseen) and two, Snape tells us eye 
> contact is essential to Legilimency  

zgirnius:
Snape also explains that the eye contact rule is not applicable to 
Harry and Voldemort. If it were, there would be no danger to Harry 
while at Hogwarts - he would only have a need for Occlumency if he 
found himself in the physical presence of Voldemort.