CHAPDISC: DH27, The Final Hiding Place
Carol
justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 20 21:51:33 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 184127
Potioncat wrote:
<snip>
> While Malfoy and Bellatrix seem cowardly for the way they escaped,
I'm not sure anyone would have lined up calmly at the door. At first,
I didn't realise they had escaped. I thought everyone had died. I'm a
little surprised that JKR didn't name the other DEs. I'm curious
about who was there. <snip>
Carol responds:
While I can't actually answer that question, we can eliminate some DEs
from the list of murder victims by looking at "the Battle of
Hogwarts," "The Forest Again," and "The Flaw in the Plan" to see who
was still alive and participating in the battle. We can also, of
course, eliminate the Carrows, Draco, and the quasi-DE Snape, who were
at Hogwarts.
Setting aside the people I've mentioned, along with Lucius and
Bellatrix, who survived LV's monstrous temper tantrum by fleeing and
pushing others out of their way, and Narcissa, who either fled with
her sister and husband or wasn't present (unlikely given that LV is in
her house), the (named) DEs still alive for the battle include Dolohov
(who probably killed Lupin); the Minister for Magic, Pius Thicknesse
(admittedly not a real DE but manipulated by them and fighting
alongside them); Yaxley; Greyback (not a real DE, I know); Rowle;
Macnair; and Rookwood. (I thought that Travers, Imperiused by Harry in
the Gringotts break-in, was in the battle, but I can't find him now.
Apparently, he was either still at Gringotts, recovering from Harry's
Imperius Curse, or he was killed by Voldemort after the break-in.)
Among the DEs who *aren't* named as being in the battle are both
Lestrange brothers (Rodolphus was injured, I don't know how badly, in
the Polyjuiced!Potters chase; Rabastan is, as usual, forgotten
throughout DH); Umbridge's relative, Selwyn, who was in the chase and
showed up later with Travers to arrest Xenophilius Lovegood; and
Avery, Mulciber, Nott, Crabbe (Sr.), and most of the other DEs
arrested after the MoM fiasco; and Goyle (Sr.), whose first and only
appearance is in the graveyard in GoF. Wormtail, of course, is already
dead.
I could come up with a few more names of DEs mentioned as arrested or
participating in the MoM raid (for example, the mysterious Jugson),
but I can't think of any besides Selwyn and Travers who are mentioned
in DH but don't seem to have been at the Battle of Hogwarts. However,
the only names given are those that Harry recognizes, and at least
some of the DEs kept their hoods on, so he couldn't tell who they were.
Carol, who suspects that DEs like Yaxley (and Macnair?) who had jobs
at the Ministry weren't present when LV started firing AKs and
survived for that reason
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