Muggles v wizards redux

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No: HPFGUIDX 183253

Magpie:
Because it's not just "don't hurt us and we won't hurt you." It's
Muggles being inferior beings--I wouldn't be happy accepting that I
was the inferior being and the second class citizen. Also these are
people who almost never reflect on their own behavior and always
consider themselves justified and they're the ones who get to decide
what's fair treatment for me. (And if they step over the line, well,
I'm sure they'll do better next time.)

Alla:

I get the impression that good guys in the books want not as much as 
treat muggles as second class citizens, but just to keep their 
affairs a secret from muggles as much as it is possible and that is 
why probably charms that I usually would hate do not bother me, since 
to me they are nothing more than metaphor for please leave us alone.

But I am still confused. You do not want wizards to decide what's 
fair treatment for you, ok. But are you saying that **just because 
you are a muggle** you should be left alone even if you hurt a 
wizard. Sounds like an unfairness to the other side to me. Or are you 
saying something different?

I mean, wizards are not immune from say dying from the bullet, right? 
Say muggle kills a wizard. Are you suggesting that wizards should 
have no right to persecute him,  because he cannot do magic?

See, I do not think it should have any influence whatsoever. I think 
muggles should have a right to persecute a wizard who breaks muggle 
law and vice versa. If  murderer who cannot do magic may be hurt by 
it, I won't cry much.



Magpie:
Almost every single interaction between Hermione and her parents
shows them not being respected as parents the way Wizards are.
Hermione doesn't just lie to them to do what she wants like Ron (or a
regular teenager) might lie to his parents when he wants to do
something he knows they won't let him do or will punish him for. She
assumes the highest authority in the family because she's the witch.
She makes decisions about them rather than vice versa. She lies
because it's easier than telling the truth because they're Muggles.
And I know there's a justification for everything she does but take a
step back and that's their whole relationship.


Alla:

What is the canon for the argument that Hermione lies to her parents 
not like any other wizarding teenager or any teenager would lie to 
get out of trouble or to hide their problems?

I am not even talking about justifications for what Hermione does. 
How exactly are they being treated differently? Are we talking of 
sending them to Australia? Because so far I cannot come up with 
anything else.

Yes, I confess I find what Hermione did in DH to be very touching.