GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 182117

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> zanooda:
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> I've always found it implausible that Sirius didn't know about the 
> Dark mark. How is it possible that the members of the OotP wouldn't 
> know how to recognize a DE? It is a useful thing to know about the 
> enemy.  


Pippin:
The Dark Mark seems to have been a secret guarded by Dumbledore as
well as Voldemort, in order to preserve Snape's cover. But I'm sure
that  there is more to uncovering a hidden dark mark than pushing up
someone's sleeve. I doubt that casual examination by a non-Death Eater
would  reveal it if the DE didn't want to be known. Draco may not have
had that ability, but then, Voldemort wanted him  caught.

There seem to have been no marked DE's taken alive prior to Godric's
Hollow, and afterwards the mark may have faded so much that it
couldn't be identified with any certainty. In any case, the marked who
pleaded innocent said they were enchanted, not that they'd never been
DE's.

Despite what Hermione thinks, the presence or absence of a Dark Mark
would not prove anything. Voldemort is perfectly capable of  marking
innocent people or those controlled by Imperius, and of not marking
people in a position to be exposed. We don't know, for example, when
Peter got his mark. It might have been after he revealed the location
of the Potters and his double agent role was coming to an end.  


> > Alla:
> 
> > as far as I am concerned Snape was just satisfying his 
> > sadistic streak here and it is possible that Barty could have 
> > been saved by Dumbledore, if only Snape let Harry see 
> > Dumbledore a moment earlier. 
> 

Pippin:
I think Dumbledore decides whom Dumbledore is going to see, don't you? 
Snape was messing Harry about, for sure, but even if Dumbledore had
gotten there in time it would only have been a brief reprieve.

Fake!Moody would never have allowed his father to reach Dumbledore
without some kind of trouble. If he feared he was  about to be
exposed, he'd have nothing to lose by killing Harry.  

Pippin