GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look/ Snape and Harry redux

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 182209

> Alla:
> 
> Looking very hard for canon where Rubeus Hagrid is dead and still 
> cannot find it LOL. But sure I know that the majority of order 
> members died, but as I said in that very sentence that several order 
> members escaped at least till the end of Second war and Lupin died
at  the very end. Surely it would have been worth that if Lily and
James  lived till that long at least?
<snip>
 So, no, I see  absolutely possibility that Lily and James at least
would have  survived till JKR felt a need to kill off the older
generation for  the most part at the end, or maybe survived as Hagrid
and Molly and  Arthur.

Pippin:
Hagrid was captured, and would have been killed if it weren't for
Harry, who in your scenario is living peacefully somewhere.

As you admit above,  JKR made Voldemort so deadly that with one
exception to prove the rule, everyone who belonged to the fighting
wing of the original Order died. Lily and James might have survived if
Voldemort's forces were less deadly, of course. But they weren't.

Moody mentions that he only met Aberforth that once, so I conclude
that he was not part of the combat forces, and Voldemort didn't think
he was a threat. OTOH, Lily and James had defied Voldemort openly. 

> 
> Alla:
> 
> And to me to say that prophecy did not materially affect Potters' 
> chance of survival IS absurd and indeed absolving Snape of moral 
> responsibility. IMO of course.
> 
> Without prophecy they were **of course** just as in much danger as 
> any order member. With prophecy they are the parents of the Chosen 
> one, the one who can destroy Voldemort. Hmmm, I know which people I 
> would be hunting the first and foremost if I were the evil overlord.

Pippin:
But unfortunately for everyone else in The Order, Voldie doesn't think
like you do.

Harry is Voldemort's number one target, but that doesn't stop him from
killing loads of other people, especially  Order members.  Tell me, if
you were an Order member, and you knew you *hadn't* been targeted by a
prophecy saying you might destroy Voldemort, would you feel safe? 

Pippin