Dumbledore versus General Iroh SPOILERS for Avatar the Last airbender LONG

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> Pippin:
> He was trying to raise up Harry to *survive* his destiny, which was 
to
> be murdered by LV. The centaurs told Harry that first year. But he
> chose to hope they were wrong. 
> 
> I'm not familiar with the Avatar series either. But, assuming 
there's
> an ongoing plot, I'll bet my pointy hat this Iroh will turn out to
> know something more than he's saying.  That's what being wise 
*means*.  


Alla:

Series ended in July of this year on Nickelodeon ( american channel), 
I believe they may still be on in some other countries, but they are 
definitely complete and on DVD in the USA. I recently watched all 
three seasons back to back and well, cannot sing higher praises to 
this show.

Anyways back to Iroh and Dumbledore. Since as I said above series are 
complete, and if you are thinking that Iroh will turn out to know 
more than he is telling, well in a sense he is, but believe me, that 
would be totally **UN** Dumbledorish sense. Being wise can mean 
something else than what Dumbledore seems to imply.

It is the matter of what he chooses to do with the information that 
he has at his disposal first and foremost. There are four nations in 
this world and they used to live in peace many years ago, but then 
the nation to whom Iroh belongs decided to start the war.

So, anyways as we learn close to the end, Iroh leads the Order of 
Lotus ( yes, yes, creators of Avatar admit some Harry Potter 
influence and Star War inferences too of course, but believe me it is 
so so not Harry Potter and not Star wars for the most part anyways), 
which made me think of the Order of Phoenix, except in a sense how 
pathetic Order of Phoenix looked to me in comparison to this one.

Order of Lotus is a way to give adults rather cool secondary story, 
while kids are indeed saving the world. It is interesting how it is 
totally possible to have adults fight one of the major battles of the 
war and still let kids take a front seat in this ride. It is also 
interesting how even though we learn about the existence of this 
order only few episodes close to the end, we already met each and 
every adult in that order individually and they all had been a big 
help in one way or another to the kids. It is hard to explain, but if 
I were to compare how adults are given chance to shine in Harry 
Potter and Avatar, well IMO Harry Potter looses big time. We have all 
those great adult characters and they, well, in my opinion do not 
have much to do at the end so they either agree to not bother with 
what Trio is doing or just killed.

Oh, and  do you know what I found super great in Avatar among other 
things? Iroh is not killed. It turns out it is completely possible to 
let the kid or teenager make all the major decisions all on his own 
AND not to kill his mentor. Again, it is hard to explain without 
going into great details in the plot of the show, but at some point 
Iroh just leaves and Zuco at that time makes the major decisions of 
his life, etc. Anyways, I am going on a tangent, I can talk and talk 
about this show.

I almost forgot to mention that yes, there is significant part of 
Zuco's past that Iroh knows and Zuco does not. It is nothing like 
prophecy, but still it is very important and I am sure it played a 
part in the decision Zuco eventually made. However, again the way 
Iroh handles the information is well, completely different from the 
way Dumbledore does things IMO.

And it seems that Iroh wanted  Zuco to choose certain destiny, 
however he only says it out loud when Zuco **already** chose that 
destiny and when he was not choosing it, Iroh supported him as well, 
all the way.  I have not noticed Dumbledore hoping that Harry will 
find his own destiny, I noticed Dumbledore pushing Harry as a weapon, 
as chess piece to do what Dumbledore wanted him to, IMO.

Iroh rocks, he really does in my opinion.

JMO,

Alla