Choices/Snape as abuser, SKIP if not interested WAS :Re: CHAPTER

[nikkalmati]

No: HPFGUIDX 188572



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
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> Alla:
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> I am going to say something and please do not think of me as being snippy, because I am not trying to be at all, this is actually the main reason I am responding to this post. I do not DO baits, period. I just do not. The reason why I put so many warnings on my post including the caption is because having debated this subject over the years in some very heated debates, I **know** how many people are tired of it (personally I still do not mind talking about it) and how many people are disagreeing with what Snape's does to be called abuse. 

Nikkalmati

Sorry, I did not mean to imply by my use of the phrase "rise to the bait" that you were trying to trick anyone or were being underhanded.  For me the name Snape in the title is the bait and believe me I have read enough posts (before and after DH) to know this controversy has gone on and on.  So, I mean, I knew what I was getting into and I know you didn't plan to start a fight.  I apologize.  

Nikkalmati


 Nikkalmati:
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>  We have no evidence SS destroyed the
> potion - he merely sneered at Harry for being such a klutz. You are not free to
> make things up.
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> Alla:
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> Unless canon shows that anybody but Snape destroyed the potion, or it fell down without his help, I am convinced that he did it, because no other parties could come as close. Of course not everybody agrees with it, but I am not making stuff up, I am just taking what I consider the simplest explanation. But if you could give me canon evidence that potion fell down without Snape's help, I will be most happy to eat my words. IMO of course. Canon based inference when no definite explanation is available other way is not making up anything. I know I did not put IMO after that sentence, but I always try so hard to make sure opinion language is used that I do not think it was unclear from my post.

Nikkalmati

Yes, it is speculation that SS knocked over the potion and I don't see much reason for him to do so unless he knocked over every potion Harry turned in.  Every theory cannot be countered by specific proof in canon of the opposite, or it would not be a theory.  I see this incident as one of a long line of incidents designed by the author to mislead the reader into thinking SS is evil.

Nikkalmati

> Alla:
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> I completely agree with Steve, after what Snape did to Harry on the first lesson, I absolutely refuse to put ANY responsibility for any future misgivings on Harry's shoulders, no matter how many misgivings Harry indeed committed. I think he attacked the boy, who looked like James, who did not know swat about WW and it all went downhill from there.
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> I think it was Snape's responsibility to ignore how Harry looks and treat him fairly.
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Nikkalmati

Yes, in an ideal world. 

Nikkalmati