Choices/Snape as abuser, SKIP if not interested WAS :Re: CHAPTER

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Dec 5 19:25:44 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 188574



Nikkalmati

Sorry, I did not mean to imply by my use of the phrase "rise to the bait" that
you were trying to trick anyone or were being underhanded. For me the name
Snape in the title is the bait and believe me I have read enough posts (before
and after DH) to know this controversy has gone on and on. So, I mean, I knew
what I was getting into and I know you didn't plan to start a fight. I
apologize.

Alla:

Thank you. :)


Nikkalmati

Yes, it is speculation that SS knocked over the potion and I don't see much
reason for him to do so unless he knocked over every potion Harry turned in. 
Every theory cannot be countered by specific proof in canon of the opposite, or
it would not be a theory. I see this incident as one of a long line of
incidents designed by the author to mislead the reader into thinking SS is evil.

Alla:

I disagree that it is speculation. Of course we are just disagreeing on the degree of what it is. I certainly am not saying it is a canon fact, but to me it is almost a canon fact. I am sure you heard of the expression "res ipsa loquitur". It is from legal profession, but I think it is pretty well known now, it means thing speaks for itself.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Res_ipsa_loquitur

But as we decided with Potioncat long time ago, I can allow for possibility of Snape's twins doing it :)

Seriously though, when I read for the first time that not everybody agrees with it, I was shocked. Not because I dislike Snape so much, but it was just like huh, who else could have done it. Again, it is my opinion, I am just saying that it was hard for me to understand it.

I am trying to come up with the example. Oh, I know, say we would have read the incident with Beacky and Malfoy  and it was not described in sufficient detail, we would have read that Malfoy came to him smirking and next line would have describing Malfoy on the ground being hurt. And then somebody would argue that Beacky did not do it, I would be thinking HUH, who else could have done it.

> Alla:
<SNIP>
> I think it was Snape's responsibility to ignore how Harry looks and treat him
fairly.
>
>

Nikkalmati

Yes, in an ideal world.


Alla:

If the world where teachers behave as professionals is an ideal one, then sure.









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