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[a_svirn]

No: HPFGUIDX 185380

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at ...> 
wrote:
>
>  
> > a_svirn:
> > There is another confusing thing about this whole wand-mastery 
> > conundrum. Harry disarmed both Draco and Bellatrix, irrc, but he
> chose  Draco's wand because it felt "friendlier". Yet, Belatrix's 
wand
> was  also won by Harry and by rights should have changed its
> allegiance to  him.  
> 
> Pippin:
> Harry didn't win Bellatrix's wand from its owner. It was taken from
> her by Ron using Wormtail's wand, won back by Bella who forced him 
to
> drop it, picked up per Bella's orders by Draco, and then physically
> wrested  from Draco by Harry. It's analogous to the situation of the
> Elder Wand -- just physically seizing it isn't enough. You need to
> defeat the previous owner. 

a_svirn:
Why not? You have to defeat you opponent. No one says *how* you are 
suppose to do it. Of course for Voldemort it means you have to kill 
the previous owner, but what did he know? Besides, Harry became the 
master of Draco's wand by wrestling it physically. So I am confused 
all ower again. 

> Pippin: 
> Giving Hermione Bella's wand was supposed to help her disguise -- 
not
> a very smart move either. 

a_svirn:
No, it wasn't. Well, not at first, that is. At first he simply chose 
the one which seemed friendlie.
a_svirn.