Courtly love in Potterverse WAS: What triggered ancient magic

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No: HPFGUIDX 187178


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> jkoney:
> You don't think they knew enough about the DE's? 
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> If they knew the DE's existed, that means that the DE's must have already been committing terrorist like acts (killing, burning, etc) and those acts must have been reported as being committed by DE's. Otherwise they never would have heard of them.

Pippin:
Hindsight is twenty-twenty.

At the time, nobody knew who to trust, according to Hagrid and Sirius, and that means nobody knew whose information was reliable. Voldemort and his followers were still heroes in the eyes of many. 

Carol:
> > Anyway, I don't see much connection between the very human and unforgiving Lily that we see after SWM and the Lily represented by Snape's Patronus. 
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Pippin:
I think the patronus was inspired by the happiness Snape felt as her friend, and that he had  already learned to cast it before the break-up. It's the kind of spell someone very interested in DADA would want to learn on their own.

It has a far nobler aspect than Lily herself. But isn't that one of the morals of the book, that you don't need to be an especially noble person to do a noble deed, nor to inspire nobility in others?


> jkoney:
> Why should Lilly be unforgiving? She had held out hope that Snape wasn't truly like his friends only to find out that he considered her a mudblood just like all the rest.

Pippin:

That's what she thought, but it probably wasn't true. How do you know what Snape's thought process was? Haven't you ever said something in rage that you wished you could take back?

Of course Snape should have stood up for Lily from the beginning and told his friends never to use that word, but that kind of courage is rare, just as Lupin never had the courage to tell his friends to lay off Snape. And Snape's friends weren't kids whose parents would have washed their mouths out with scurgify -- they'd learned to say "mudblood" from respectable adults like Phineas Nigellus. This was an issue the WW needed to settle for itself which went far beyond the walls of Hogwarts. 

Pippin