Who knows prophecy contents?
pippin_999
foxmoth at pippin_999.yahoo.invalid
Thu Feb 24 14:43:43 UTC 2005
--- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "cubfanbudwoman"
<susiequsie23 at s...> wrote:
> Whom do you believe knows the *full* contents of the
prophecy? Is there anyone besides DD & Harry who now know
it?<
Pippin:
Let's put two and two together, shall we? Snape goes off on a
secret mission at the end of GoF, and all of a sudden, Voldemort
is convinced that the Prophecy is the weapon that will tell him
how to destroy Harry.
Suppose that was the information that allowed Snape to buy his
way back into Voldemort's good graces? 'Seize the prophecy and
you will be able to destroy Potter once and for all, Master! And if
it turns out not to contain the information that I say it does, then
kill me!'
Now, I think Snape knows this is a lie, which is why Snape
agreed to teach Occlumency to Harry. He knew it would be a
disaster for himself if Voldemort ever got his hands on the
prophecy. Snape made a bad job of it, and eventually had to give
up, but I don't believe the failure was intentional. He's just one of
those people who are utterly convinced that the best way to make
reluctant people do what you want them to do is to put pressure
on them. (IMO, one of Rowling's goals is not only to show us that
bullying is wrong but that it doesn't work, even when the bully's
intentions are noble.)
I don't think Dumbledore told Snape what the prophecy actually
says. I can't see a need to know. But I think Snape may have
been the one of the 'useful spies' who told Dumbledore that
Voldemort was after the Potters and the Longbottoms, and,
putting two and two together, has come to think this was tied to
the prophecy.
Harry is sure that Snape *does* know something about what's in
the Department of Mysteries and *does* think that he's special
and important -- that's why he went snooping in the Pensieve
after all.
But since Dumbledore says that he alone could have overcome
the flaw in his plan (by telling Harry about his destiny) it doesn't
seem that he thought any one else knew.
I think he is wrong. I believe James told Sirius before he died,
and that Sirius told Lupin after they were reunited--probably
before the graveyard scene in GoF. This is the meaning of the
glance that Sirius and Lupin exchange before they start telling
Harry about the 'weapon.'
This raises the interesting possibility that Eversoevil!Lupin
revealed all or part of the rest of the prophecy to Voldemort,
leaving Voldemort with a dilemma: which of his spies is lying?
For once his vaunted truthsense does not tell him. No wonder he
wants to hear the danged thing for himself!
Voldemort certainly acts as if he knows that only he can destroy
Harry. In that case, his aim in trying to force Dumbledore and
Harry to fight was not to destroy Harry but to destroy Dumbledore,
the only one he fears.
Pippin
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