Lupin, mon amour was Re: Page-filler Lupin [the_old_crowd] Re: bugger and All things Snape

[silmariel]

> Pippin:
> Lupin does not transform at night per se, he transforms during a period
> controlled by the full moon. He is absent from classes and a Quidditch
> game, both of which take place in daytime. Furthermore, as I've just
> pointed out on TOL, Fenrir can predict the time of his transformations
> closely enough to position himself near specific victims. The moon's
> appearance from behind a cloud in PoA has the distinct odor of a  scarlet 
> fishy.
>

In this particular case I can't consider the lack of reliable sources, furbys 
are wide known for a long period, and being (still) second grade citizens, I 
assume they have been studied, at least for practical/defense questions, that 
includes how they transform and when - definitely not the case of phoenix or 
those so rare three headed serpents. The texbook Snape used should be 
correct. Hermione doesn't catch anything wrong with the trasformation, but I 
don't know how good is she thinking on stressed moments, and Lupin gets sure 
that Snape is not awakened (I think Snape is the only character present that 
wouldn't disregard details because of the inmediate danger, and knows the 
subject by heart, instead of only by one direct case). 

> Silmariel:
> > Now on Pippin's idea that Lupin puppeteered all the Prank, I don't buy it
> > because it deprives me of the only reason I know for Lupin to betray his
> > friends in full fashion (give me another one as personal and canon as
> > that and I'll change my mind).
> >
> Pippin:
> Does your character sheet indicate that Lupin counted the times his
> friends let him court exposure in Hogsmeade as  the happiest  days in his
> life?  Lupin did not dread exposure, even the risk of killing,  as much as
> he dreaded the loss of those outings.
>

Yes, it has everything I know about him, included those 'close calls'. But 
still, I don't think in every drunken teenage driver as actually eager to 
kill someone. I see they don't evaluate risks -and they risk killing-, they 
think they are inmortal and 'everything will be fine, that won't happen to 
me'. 

I can understand why that mentality combined with hate can lead to the prank, 
but once the joke is on you, as it was on Lupin, it cracks. 

The premeditation included in Imperio is something on another scale, methinks, 
it brings a rotten figure - as instead of going out to drink and risking 
driving, you decide to kill in order to keep doing it.

I don't think it's needed to make a case for betrayal theme. May Lupin be a 
pre-programed bomb child? I don't see canon for it, mainly for all the space 
Rowling has devoted only to explain the whys of Voldemort-the-monster, she 
treats with care childs depicted as rotten and while it is fairly easy to 
bring the betrayal theme, at this point in the game it would be too out of 
thin air to fill Lupin as, not ESE in the sense of 'secretly aligned with 
Voldie' but as Evil Semper Evil. 

> But there would have been no risk of exposure in the prank if James had
> not interfered.
>
> If Snape fought  to the death he would tell no tales, if he was bitten, he
> would have the best of reasons to keep Lupin's secret. He would also be in
> no condition to spy on the Marauders while Lupin was transformed.
> There would be blood and signs of a struggle, but those were
> normal in the wake of Lupin's transformations, and a corpse is easy
> for a wizard to conceal -- just  transfigure it into a bone and bury
> it later. Snape would have disappeared like Montague, and only the
> Marauders the wiser.
>

Montague couldn't have dissapeared in other year that OoP -that wasn't a 
school year, was open warfare within the school- without being noticed and 
investigated. The problem with my argument is that half the years are not 
normal, in any way <g>

Do you really think that with DD as headmaster, Snape could have simply 
dissapeared? In an active war, maybe, but... that isn't hinted, imo. I know, 
I can be so naive.

> Most likely Sirius had to die because he knew too much. "Harry, take
> the prophecy and run!" or words to that effect. Sounds like Sirius
> knew what the prophecy was, knew where it could be found, and
> thought that Harry knew too. But only a Death Eater could have
> told Sirius that. Dumbledore and Snape knew that Harry didn't
> have a clue which prophecy Voldemort was after.
>

Yikes, when I thought my head couldn't ache more.

> Pippin
> who likes Kneasy's idea of noms de chien, but thinks that werewolves and
> textbook authors are cursed with prophetic names the better to
> remind us that this is a toy universe. Some things are only painted on.
>

About names... if french names are a bad sign, Lupin sings out loud as french, 
not only as wolfy.

The game of finding who is someone, is fun, but maybe Lupin is John Doe, just 
an offspring from the standard wizard, and, we know so little from his 
parents (the source being him doesn't add to credibility). This leads to the 
dangerous path of secret child, you know, if the specific name is important.

R&R Lestranges can be a possibility (mainly because the initials match, and 
that's the easiest way to start), Luna has also a moonish name and matches L, 
or he could be that 'muggle' cousin Molly didn't talk much of (by the time 
she said the commentary, that is)... it seems out of nowhere, but precisely 
PoA is dedicated to a Prewett.

Back to lurking, for a while - this night is Wizard Kings' night.

Silmariel left long ago the game of trying to make sense of past generations 
in the potterverse, after considering if Bill and Barty Jr could hang around 
at school times.