[the_old_crowd] Re: Some questions

[Kathy King]

Pippin:
It's not a *new* traitor, it's the *same* traitor. It's Remus Lupin, and
it always has been.  The evidence of a traitor in the Order is the same
as it was last time: Order members are being picked off, one by one.
Sturgis Podmore, Sirius Black, Emmeline Vance (though her death
may have been faked to secure Snape's cover), Albus Dumbledore.

Really, I don't understand how anybody could still  think that Pettigrew
was spying for an entire year undetected. He stammers and breaks
into a sweat whenever he tries to lie -- something his old friends
Sirius and James would surely be aware of. How could he possibly
have fooled them? Pettigrew did betray the Potters, but only
because he was captured and threatened -- and it was the *real*
spy who gave him away. He confessed for the same reason
that he betrayed the Potters -- because he was in fear of his
life. Betcha.



Snow:


I think so too! At least I have the same suspicions for almost the same
reasons (some may be my own reading) but at the very least we agree that
Pettigrew is a rouse. If he is, who Else could it be?
We have no back-story on this character (Lupin) even to the extent of the
others, why leave so much detail out of this Particular character unless
there is a purpose; If for no other reason that in-it-self gives play for
doubt in my book.


If you detach yourself from the feelings you have for a character, strip him
down; what do you have in the end?

What do we know about Lupin:



(1)   Lupin was bitten by a werewolf (who we know now was Fenrir)

(2)   Lupin attended school ONLY by the grace of Dumbledore...

(3)   Lupin was afraid, because of his affliction, that no one would
befriend him

(4)   Lupin finds friends who he never thought would except him

(5)   Lupin has friends that go the extra distance and transform for him
(breaking every rule that exits, not to mention Ministry rules [Animagus])

(6)   Lupin then finds he has an enemy who is attempting to expose him in
his Shangri-La (obvious apprehension comes to mind); what if…

(7)   What to do? (of course I could fill in the blanks, but I think we know
what they are)
(8)   Friends have deserted him (?) via no picture (next to) with his
bestest buds in the Order pic and he isn't called upon for Harry's
baptismal, and one of his bestest buds (that broke all school rules for him)
thinks he is the Spy on the Order; therefore making Pettigrew the secret
keeper instead of himself.
(9)  Big Blank

(10)    Lupin has no past but a suitcase with peeling letters pronouncing
that he is a Professor… WHAT…and no one doubts him because he is
…well…Lupin…the good guy! And we don't want him to be bad cause JKR likes
him and well SO DO I...but that isn't enough reason not to suspect him, or
is it?


There may not be enough evidence to prove him guilty but there is enough for
suspicion I would think!

If not him who else, cause someone isnt who they say they are?


Snow


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