The Geist predicts again, mostly about Snape

pippin_999 foxmoth at pippin_999.yahoo.invalid
Sat Jun 2 22:49:44 UTC 2007


Pippin, previously:
> Now, if Snape should have turned down the UV, or should have died on the
> Tower rather than fulfill it, then he has such a moment. But otherwise he
> doesn't, because according to Dumbledore, when Snape's big test came, the
> moment when he should have died rather than co-operate with the murder of
> James, Snape passed. He's *already* redeemed himself. 
> 
> Amanda replies: Can you clarify this? I don't follow. Redemptive character =
> had a chance to choose good, which would have meant their doom, but didn't.
> So will be toast later. You reference several. So. Snape = had chance to
> choose good, but didn't. So he *won't* be toast later? I'm missing
> something, because you don't make mistakes in logical parallels like that.

Pippin:
Okay, I'll try again. Maybe Snape blew his obligation to Dumbledore by taking
the UV, or by killing Dumbledore on the tower If so, if he should have died instead,
then he'll have to die if he is to redeem himself. But if that didn't happen,
then what we're left with, according to Dumbledore, is that when he found
out the Potters had been targetted, Snape changed sides, a choice that should have
meant his death. 

If Snape *accepted* his doom instead of violating his obligation to the good 
side, that makes him very different than Peter, or Anakin or Boromir. If 
JKR can make us believe that, then she shouldn't  have to kill Snape to show 
us that he's still capable of making the right choice, or to convince us that 
he won't backslide.

> 
> Kneasy:
> 
> What if, just for the sake of argument, ole Snapey really is a baddun.
> 

Pippin:
It would be totally out of keeping tone-wise with the rest of the story, IMO,
like Hermione turning out to be a scarlet woman. There's no shortage
of boo-hiss villains in the rest of fantasy, especially children's fantasy,
so why does the Potterverse need one?

I think JKR is showing us a world where evil exists beyond question but
the belief in villains is part of the problem. Psychologically,  the boo-hiss 
villain is a composite, a bit of poetic license -- logically no one can have 
both a completely amoral nature and at the same time be in gleeful  
rebellion against his conscience.

Pippin
also deeply attracted to Snape before the movie came out





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