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[HPforGrownups] Re: Who needs Harry? (was: GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look/ Snape and Harry redux) Lynda Cordova
- Who needs Harry? (was: GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look/ Snape and Harry redux) Carol
Re: CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 17, Bathilda’s Secre pippin_999
- Re: CHAPDISC: HP & DH, Chapt 17, Bathilda’s Secret - Snake Vision Steve
- Re: CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 17, Bathilda’s Secre Carol
Dumbledore and Snape that night WAS: Re: GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look Carol
- Dumbledore and Snape that night WAS: Re: GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look potioncat
Suspension of disbelief WAS: Why should we care if Harry's not really needed? horridporrid03
- Suspension of disbelief WAS: Why should we care if Harry's not really needed? dumbledore11214
- Suspension of disbelief WAS: Why should we care if Harry's not really needed Carol
  - Suspension of disbelief WAS: Why should we care if Harry's not really needed dumbledore11214
    - Suspension of disbelief WAS: Why should we care if Harry's not really needed Carol
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War sistermagpie
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War Carol
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War pippin_999
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War sistermagpie
    - [HPforGrownups] Re: Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War Lynda Cordova
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War sistermagpie
    - [HPforGrownups] Re: Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War Lynda Cordova
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War pippin_999
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War horridporrid03
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War pippin_999
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War dumbledore11214
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War Steve
    - Harry's "coming of age" (Was: Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War) Carol
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War sistermagpie
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War dumbledore11214
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War Steve
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War dumbledore11214
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War julie
    - [HPforGrownups] Re: Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War Lynda Cordova
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War Steve
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War dumbledore11214
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War pippin_999
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War dumbledore11214
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War zanooda2
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War pippin_999
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War montavilla47
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent horridporrid03
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Carol
    - [HPforGrownups] Re: Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Lynda Cordova
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent horridporrid03
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Mike
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Carol
    - Scary Voldemort? WAS : Re: Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent dumbledore11214
    - Scary Voldemort? WAS : Re: Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent pippin_999
    - Scary Voldemort? WAS : Re: Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Carol
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Steve
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent sistermagpie
    - ADMIN combined with Re: Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent potioncat
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent horridporrid03
    - [HPforGrownups] Re: Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Lynda Cordova
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Carol
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent pippin_999
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent horridporrid03
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent dumbledore11214
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Carol
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Carol
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent horridporrid03
    - [HPforGrownups] Re: Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Lynda Cordova
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent horridporrid03
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Carol
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent cubfanbudwoman
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent horridporrid03
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent hickengruendler
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent pippin_999
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Zara
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent Carol
    - Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent pippin_999
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War Carol
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War Steve
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War dumbledore11214
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War Carol
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War dumbledore11214
    - Suspension of disbelief - Idiots of War Steve
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War Lois Jamieson
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War sistermagpie
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War pippin_999
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War sistermagpie
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War Carol
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War pippin_999
    - Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War sistermagpie
Tongues (Was Re: Basilisk Venom) Goddlefrood
- [HPforGrownups] Tongues (Was Re: Basilisk Venom) k12listmomma
  - Tongues (Was Re: Basilisk Venom) cubfanbudwoman
Luna's Dad ericoppen
ADMIN: Cease Snape discussions! hpfgu_elves
- ADMIN: Cease Snape discussions! Carol
  - ADMIN: Cease Snape discussions! Jayne
- ADMIN: Cease Snape discussions! potioncat
  - [HPforGrownups] Re: ADMIN: Cease Snape discussions! k12listmomma
- ADMIN: Cease Snape discussions! bdclark0423
  - ADMIN: Cease Snape discussions! Geoff Bannister
- ADMIN: Cease Snape discussions! potioncat
  - ADMIN: Cease Snape discussions! bdclark0423
  - ADMIN: Cease Snape discussions! Mike
One True Hero and Hero By Committee - LONG Steve
One True Hero and Hero By Committee - LONG (Was: Re: WHo needs Harry?) pippin_999
Snape's potions book (was Re: Who needs Harry?) Carol
- Snape's potions book (was Re: Who needs Harry?) potioncat
  - Snape's potions book (was Re: Who needs Harry?) Carol
- Snape's potions book (was Re: Who needs Harry?) allison wenzl
Can dementors actually be killed? jdl3811220
- Can dementors actually be killed? Steve
  - Can dementors actually be killed? Carol
    - Can dementors actually be killed? dragonkeeper
    - [HPforGrownups] Re: Can dementors actually be killed? k12listmomma
    - Can dementors actually be killed? bdclark0423
    - Can dementors actually be killed? bdclark0423
    - Can dementors actually be killed? potioncat
Re: CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 17, Bathilda’s Secret potioncat
- Re: CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 17, Bathilda’s Secret bdclark0423
- Re: CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 17, Bathilda’s Secret nirupama76
  - Re: CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 17, Bathilda’s Secret potioncat
    - Re: CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 17, Bathilda’s Secret nirupama76
OOP Chapter 1 post DH look dumbledore11214
- OOP Chapter 1 post DH look montavilla47
- OOP Chapter 1 post DH look Carol
  - OOP Chapter 1 post DH look Steve
[HPforGrownups] OOP Chapter 1 post DH look Meliss9900 at aol.com
Weekly Chat, 4/6/2008, 1:00 pm HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com
Re: [HPforGrownups] CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 17, Bathilda’s Secret Laura Lynn Walsh
Imperalisk/ChapterDiscussion/UnbreakableVow/Fiendfyre/UmDementbridge/Herodoto Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)
- Imperius Curse and Harry (was Re: re:Imperalisk/ potioncat
  - Imperius Curse and Harry (was Re: re:Imperalisk/ Ceridwen
    - Imperius Curse and Harry (was Re: re:Imperalisk/ Carol
    - Imperius Curse and Harry (was Re: re:Imperalisk/ potioncat
    - Imperius Curse and Harry (was Re: re:Imperalisk/ Philip
  - Imperius Curse and Harry (was Re: re:Imperalisk/ Carol
OOP Chapter 2 Post DH look dumbledore11214
- OOP Chapter 2 Post DH look potioncat
  - OOP Chapter 2 Post DH look dumbledore11214
    - OOP Chapter 2 Post DH look Carol
    - OOP Chapter 2 Post DH look Zara
    - OOP Chapter 2 Post DH look pippin_999
    - OOP Chapter 2 Post DH look Zara
- OOP Chapter 2 Post DH look Carol
- OOP Chapter 2 Post DH look Carol
James's Parents Jayne
- James's Parents Gloria R. Hernon
- James's Parents Steve
  - James's Parents potioncat
- James's Parents Bruce Alan Wilson
Convention Alley 2008 Registration Update Sheryll Townsend
Weekly Chat, 4/13/2008, 1:00 pm HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com
someone else being right / James's parents Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)
- [HPforGrownups] re: someone else being right / James's parents Lee Kaiwen
  - someone else being right / James's parents potioncat
    - James's parents' generation ( Was: someone else being right / James's parents) Carol
    - James's parents' generation ( Was: someone else being right / James's parents) potioncat
Seven (nude) Potters (only 6 nude) Hagrid
Voldemort and Harry related? dukelover_0890
- Voldemort and Harry related? Steve
ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore Mike
- ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore nirupama76
- ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore dumbledore11214
- [HPforGrownups] ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore Jerri/Dan Chase
- ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore Carol
- ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore cubfanbudwoman
  - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore nirupama76
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore nikkalmati
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore zanooda2
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore zanooda2
- ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore Steve
  - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore nikkalmati
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore Steve
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore nikkalmati
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore Carol
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore nikkalmati
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore Steve
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore nikkalmati
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore pippin_999
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore nikkalmati
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore dumbledore11214
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore pippin_999
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore dumbledore11214
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore Carol
    - ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore Zara
- ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore Blair
- ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore Jerri/Dan Chase
Depression in HP characters? nirupama76
Harry and Voldermort's powers Tandra
- Harry and Voldermort's powers nirupama76
  - Harry and Voldermort's powers Jayne
    - Harry and Voldermort's powers nirupama76
    - Harry and Voldermort's powers Jayne
[HPforGrownups] Voldemort and Harry related? James Sharman
Aberforth and Hogs Head pub Jayne
- Aberforth and Hogs Head pub YasminOaks at aol.com
- Aberforth and Hogs Head pub potioncat
  - Aberforth and Hogs Head pub Jayne
- Aberforth and Hogs Head pub Carol
The Sword of Gryffindor Brenwen
- The Sword of Gryffindor Heather Rivera
  - The Sword of Gryffindor Carol
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Geoff Bannister
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Carol
    - [HPforGrownups] The Board of Governors (was: The Sword of Gryffindor) Tiffany Lothamer
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Geoff Bannister
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Carol
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Geoff Bannister
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Jayne
    - The Sword of Gryffindor hickengruendler
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Steve
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Carol
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Carol
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Geoff Bannister
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Carol
    - [HPforGrownups] Re: The Sword of Gryffindor k12listmomma
    - The Sword of Gryffindor pippin_999
    - The Cup, the Locket, the Sword, the Journey Lenore
    - The Cup, the Locket, the Sword, the Journey Carol
    - [HPforGrownups] Re: The Cup, the Locket, the Sword, the Journey Lenore
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Carol
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Geoff Bannister
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Carol
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Mike
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Annemehr
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Carol
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Gloria Rodriguez
    - The Sword of Gryffindor jkoney65
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Carol
    - [HPforGrownups] Re: The Sword of Gryffindor Heather Rivera
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Annemehr
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Miles
    - The Sword of Gryffindor Steve
OOP Chapter 3 post DH look dumbledore11214
- OOP Chapter 3 post DH look Carol
  - OOP Chapter 3 post DH look/Trusting Moody Jayne
- OOP Chapter 3 post DH look Jayne
Ok this may be a dumd question (Snape/Lilly) Tandra
- Ok this may be a dumd question (Snape/Lilly) Jayne
  - Ok this may be a dumb question (Snape/Lilly) peggy_hart
  - Ok this may be a dumb question (Snape/Lilly) Carol
    - Snape's Dementor lesson was: a dumb question kempermentor
    - Snape's Dementor lesson was: a dumb question Carol
    - Snape's Dementor lesson was: a dumb question/Choice of Patronus Jayne
- Ok this may be a dumd question (Snape/Lilly) Zara
  - Ok this may be a dumd question (Snape/Lilly) zanooda2
Remus and Patronus Jayne
- Remus and Patronus nirupama76
Albus&Gellaert/Merope&Voldemort/Albus's nose/Y Voldemort's Power/A &G Again Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)
- Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Carol
  - Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power littleleahstill
  - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power pippin_999
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Gloria Rodriguez
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power sistermagpie
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Carol
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power dumbledore11214
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Carol
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Mike
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power dumbledore11214
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Carol
    - The scar Barry
    - The scar Carol
    - [HPforGrownups] Re: The scar k12listmomma
    - The scar Steve
    - The scar Geoff Bannister
    - The scar Barry
    - The scar Carol
    - The scar Carol
    - The scar potioncat
    - James and Sirius - "Coolness" Mike
    - James and Sirius - "Coolness" sistermagpie
    - James and Sirius - "Coolness" potioncat
    - James and Sirius - "Coolness" Carol
    - The scar zanooda2
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Beatrice23
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Carol
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power potioncat
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Beatrice23
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Carol
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Beatrice23
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Carol
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power potioncat
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power dumbledore11214
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power potioncat
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power dumbledore11214
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power potioncat
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Carol
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power montavilla47
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power potioncat
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Carol
    - HP as escapist children's literature (was Harry's DADA skill) julie
    - HP as escapist children's literature (was Harry's DADA skill) potioncat
    - [HPforGrownups] HP as escapist children's literature (was Harry's DADA skill) Lynda Cordova
    - HP as escapist children's literature (was Harry's DADA skill) Carol
    - [HPforGrownups] Re: HP as escapist children's literature (was Harry's DADA skill) Lynda Cordova
    - HP as escapist children's literature (was Harry's DADA skill) Jerri/Dan Chase
    - [HPforGrownups] HP as escapist children's literature (was Harry's DADA skill) Lynda Cordova
    - HP as escapist children's literature (was Harry's DADA skill) Carol
    - HP as escapist children's literature (was Harry's DADA skill) pippin_999
    - HP as escapist children's literature (was Harry's DADA skill) Ken Hutchinson
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power pippin_999
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Carol
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Beatrice23
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Carol
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power dumbledore11214
    - Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power Jerri/Dan Chase
  - Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power kamion53
Weekly Chat, 4/20/2008, 1:00 pm HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com
OOP Chapters 4-5 post DH look dumbledore11214
- OOP Chapters 4-5 post DH look Carol
Snape's Dementor lesson Jerri/Dan Chase
- [HPforGrownups] Re: Snape's Dementor lesson JAYNE SMITH
- Snape's Messenger Patronus ((was Re: Snape's Dementor lesson potioncat
  - Nature of Patronus - Snape's Messenger Patronus Steve
    - Nature of Patronus - Snape's Messenger Patronus Richard
  - Snape's Messenger Patronus ((was Re: Snape's Dementor lesson Carol
- Snape's Dementor lesson becks3uk
Random Questions....SS Tandra
- Random Questions....SS becks3uk
- Random Questions....SS zanooda2
  - The scar Barry
Hogwarts classes and textbooks Jerri/Dan Chase
- Hogwarts classes and textbooks Carol
- Hogwarts classes and textbooks Jerri/Dan Chase
  - Hogwarts classes and textbooks Carol
    - Hogwarts classes and textbooks zanooda2
- Hogwarts classes and textbooks Jerri/Dan Chase
  - Hogwarts classes and textbooks Carol
  - Hogwarts classes and textbooks zanooda2
Weekly Chat, 4/27/2008, 1:00 pm HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com
GG/Fawkes&Hat/RL'sPatronus/HP'sPatronus/Astronomy/FB/WorthDyingFor Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)
- GG and Durmstrang Carol
  - What if Bellatrix found the Elder Wand? (was:GG and Durmstrang) cubfanbudwoman
Find your Niche potioncat
- Find your Niche montavilla47
  - Find your Niche kempermentor
    - Find your Niche lesley
    - Find your Niche nirupama76
- Find your Niche Blair
CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe Debbie
- CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe MarS
- CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe potioncat
- [HPforGrownups] CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe Laura Lynn Walsh
- CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe Carol
- CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe dumbledore11214
  - CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe potioncat
    - CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe Jayne
- CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe irenematt02176
- CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe Blair
  - [HPforGrownups] Re: CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe Laura Lynn Walsh
    - CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe Blair
  - CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe Carol
- CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe Zara
  - CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe Carol
- CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe Hagrid
CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Sil Jerri/Dan Chase
- CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Sil Jayne
Cool Jerri/Dan Chase
- Cool Carol
  - Cool sistermagpie
Time and Space in The Portrait Universe Steve
- Time and Space in The Portrait Universe plus a correction to the Carol
  - Time and Space in The Portrait Universe... Steve

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